pin float ?

[jfox]

how much pin float is acceptable. Seems like I am fighting all the time to keep my pin dead on target. I would like to try a back tension release but from what I read you need to be able to hold the pin dead on for a couple of seconds in order to be accurate. with my trigger release I know i can pull the trigger when my pin gets over my targeted spot.

[SonnyThomas]

Need a reference.  For me, a .029" pin floating within a 5 spot 5 ring is acceptable.  I would ask what poundage you have your bow set to.  Hint; If you have to much poundage going to back tension with any type of release, thumb or hinge, won't help. First, your trying to hold the draw weight and then trying to engage back tension when your mind is occupied with holding the draw weight.  To add; For a back tension release, hinge, most suggest you start with a low poundage bow with the release set heavy. Set heavy, you learn to use the rhomboid muscles.

Proper draw length is also a factor for holding steady as well as having a good anchor point. I would quote Terry Wunderle, one of the finest archery coaches; "90% of all bad shots come from the bow arm."

All in place one should be able to be relaxed at full draw and this is when the shot comes easy.

One more. It seems everyone wants to go to smaller and smaller pins, BUT, the smaller the pin the more perceived movement there is.

Probably went to far, but hope you get the idea.

[jfox]

Thank you for your reply, and you didn't "go to far" this is the stuff Im looking for. Im only shooting 63 lbs on a Hoyt UE cam1/2@65% let off. so I don't think its a weight problem I do want to play with my draw a little more. Ive got good groups it just seems like im working really hard for them. Because of this I get tired very quickly and my form falls apart.    

maybe backing off the weight a little more would be worth a try?

I did the math and with the bow I shot last year at 70lbs with 80% cams I was holding 14lbs, and at 63 lbs and 65% cam Im holding 22 lbs. Hmmmm

Well thank you again, this will give me something to start with.

[Cougars09]

Finding the proper holding weight is a huge factor in pin float. I would try playing around with that. When you find what fits you best, your pin float should be much better. If going lower on holding weight doesn't work, try going up in weight, but you said you're holding 22lbs, and that's quiet a bit. Around 17lbs is the magic number for me.

[SonnyThomas]

I get tired very quickly and my form falls apart.

This tells me your weight is too heavy or you're fighting the bow (not fitted to you) and/or form.

Address the target. Stand straight up, feet straight down from your shoulders (more like arm pits).  Head up, look to the target and draw bow and you as do try to keep the pin on the target (a little high is good as you can come down easier than go up). The bow comes to you, not you going to the bow. Peep should be right there, not tilting the head (a little exception if you're wanting nose/string contact).
Hints; If you can't keep the pin reasonably about  the target while drawing you're draw weight is too heavy. If a solid (not forced, but repeatable) anchor the nose/string contact is not necessary.  you and the bow are to be One.
     

[LDFalks]

I get tired very quickly and my form falls apart.

This tells me your weight is too heavy or you're fighting the bow (not fitted to you) and/or form.

Address the target. Stand straight up, feet straight down from your shoulders (more like arm pits).  Head up, look to the target and draw bow and you as do try to keep the pin on the target (a little high is good as you can come down easier than go up). The bow comes to you, not you going to the bow. Peep should be right there, not tilting the head (a little exception if you're wanting nose/string contact).
Hints; If you can't keep the pin reasonably about  the target while drawing you're draw weight is too heavy. If a solid (not forced, but repeatable) anchor the nose/string contact is not necessary.  you and the bow are to be One.
     

Good answer Sonny.  This is a good way to check draw weight and bow fit.